Another subject of the meeting will be a talk by B. Light on the inner workings of KAMPhot. He showed some plots comparing PSF FWHM values to the "pfrac" parameter produced by G. Kopan's bumps program; the correlation was strong. The related subject of seeing estimation arose; once again the frequency of the estimate was questioned. The baseline approach for 2MAPPS has been to estimate the seeing once per N (TBD) point sources, probably with a minimum of one estimate per scan, although if the scan is too sparse for a good estimate, some measure of uncertainty would be needed. No method for computing such an estimate was apparent.